Why You Will Get Cut Defending Against a Knife • Martial Arts Journey

Reality of Knife Defense There is no shortage of alleged knife defense
techniques both online and in various training places. Having personally been introduced to Aikido’s
knife defense techniques and only later learning how far it is from the actual reality of knife
defense, I personally know very well how many of presented knife defense techniques suffer
from the same lack of realism. Unfortunately as the common practitioner does
not know what to look for in understanding whether the presented knife defense technique
is realistic or not, many are taught something what would never work in a real situation
and thus face a life threatening danger, if they will ever face a real knife defense situation
while having false knowledge about how it really works. For this reason I’ve interview Bruno Orozco,
a self defense expert who has not been satisfied with just nice looking knife defense techniques
and really looked into how knife defense actually works. Hi, my name is Rokas, and in this Martial
Arts Journey video we will look at the Reality of Knife Defense. When talking about knife defense, first of
all, it is important to establish that the best knife defense is to run away. As Bruno Orozco says: “The knife is a very
simple and complex weapon at the same time. Simple, because anyone can grab a knife and
hurt you, and complex because a knife doesn’t have patterns. It’s too fast and too chaotic. It’s a weapon that’s practically impossible
to stop, if someone with a true focus to kill is holding it. It’s impossible to come out unharmed in
a knife attack.”. To elaborate on Bruno’s thought – it is
only a myth that it’s possible to rely on a single or few techniques to defend yourself
against a real knife attack. A knife is such a difficult weapon to defend
against, that if you ever come across such a situation, and you have a chance to run,
there should be no consideration in trusting your presumed superior knife defense techniques,
trying to disarm the attacker, just because of your confidence in what you learned. No unnecessary risk should be taken in such
a situation, and if you can run away, you should run away. Effective knife defense question though becomes
important, if you are in a situation where there is no option to run away, such as when
protecting a loved one, or having no escape route. This is where according to Bruno Orozco, we
need to understand how knife and weapon attacks work. Bruno points out that there are three categories
in weapons and knife defense: “First is the part of a threat, when you are shown a
weapon and are threatened, but they don’t touch you with the weapon, they just show
it. A mugging is when you are touched by a weapon,
but you are not attacked by it. And finally we have the attack, when you are
physically attacked by the weapon.”. To elaborate once more on what Bruno said,
it’s important to understand that if you are presented with a weapon, that is not yet
an actual attack and there is still space for either a pre-emptive attack, negotiation,
or simply giving your valuables to the mugger, if that guarantees safety. A much more difficult situation is if the
person with the knife is actually attacking. Here, Bruno continues: “In that case, the
best thing to do is to establish distance. We must not go to deliberately try to stop
or try to hold a knife. Because this is impossible if the knife is
in motion. The knife has a sort of come and go, bouncing
back and forth, really fast motion. So the only thing we can do, if we can not
establish distance is to reduce the damage, that the knife will inflict upon us. Only reduce and not eliminate, because it’s
impossible to come out unharmed from a real knife attack.”. I personally found this point brought up by
Bruno Orozco fascinating. All the knife defense techniques that I was
introduced to prior to this interview, were showing clean techniques, against a single
thrust, were as a performer of the technique I would get out unharmed during my training. Only later I realized that having this expectation
of performing a clean, single technique, can prove to be fatal, since as soon as this clean
technique would not work in reality once, the brain could easily freeze in presumed
failure and would be unable to effectively defend further. Expecting from the very beginning that the
knife will most likely inflict damage, may very well give the required mental fortitude
to continue on defending, even if the technique is not landing clean and damage is done. As Bruno says, the real question is not on
how to avoid damage all together, but how to reduce it: “To reduce the damage we have
to know the techniques where we don’t allow the knife to harm us or cut us in vital areas
of our body, because if we end up unconscious cause of lack of blood, we will not be able
to defend ourselves.”. As later Bruno points out these vital areas
can be described as horizontal lines. As you move down from the top of the head,
the vital lines and non-vital lines switch in between. While the forehead is not a vital line, it
is important to know that if it is cut, a curtain of blood will spill into our eyes
making it unable for us to see, leading to deadly results. If the line across our eyes is cut, we may
lose our sight all-together due to direct eye damage. The next line across the level of the mouth
and chin is not as vital, yet the following line of the neck is. As we move further down, our chest is protected
by chest muscles and rib cage, making it almost as a natural armor and thus: non-vital, yet
the next level down is vital again, as it includes our liver and pancreas and little
protection. Even lower we have our intestines, where if
someone stabs, it’s less serious, yet if someone slashes with enough power, the intestines
will pop out and to quote Bruno: “You will be too preoccupied to pick them up and not
defending yourself”. To move our attention to the arms, Bruno explains
that the interior part of them have veins, while the external part doesn’t. Thus if a person ends up defending against
a knife with his external parts of the arms, it will cause less serious damage. Meanwhile, if an artery or a vein is reached
in the internal side of the arms, it’s less than a minute until a person will pass out. While there will be a chance to continue to
fight during that time, one will slowly start to feel ill, and eventually end up unconscious. In the end Bruno explains that in a knife
attack we have to protect the mentioned vital areas and be willing to sacrifice the non-vital
ones, while remembering that there are actually no clean techniques against a knife. While considering that running away is not
an option in some cases and knowing the difference between vital and non vital areas, the last
question that remains, is how to actually train for a real knife attack and how to really
defend from it. When asked, Bruno answers that when you focus
on reducing damage, the next step is to counter attack: “The best counter attack technique
is a combination of striking and grappling. Grappling not as if you take the opponent
to the floor, but grappling as a movement of leverage – as in wrist locks and fingerlocks.”. Here Bruno points out that here Aikido knife
defense techniques can come in useful, as they include wrist locks and fingerlocks against
a knife attacker, yet he also stresses that it’s not just the techniques themselves
which matter, but also the training method: “[These techniques work], if they are adapted
to the reality of the knife. And the only way to do this is to do sparring
with a training knife. Because if you don’t know how someone is
actually going to attack you, in a training session and under pressure, then you will
never know what combination of striking and locks to apply.”. As we’ve came to the end of the discussion
about the knife, Bruno wanted to point out one more last thing by saying: “Most knife
attacks are ambushes. So the victim does not see the knife until
he or she feels it in the body. Unless it’s a case of a threat though a
distance, were you can use that distance to be able to run away, but if the agresor is
closing the distance and you can not run away, then you have to fight for your life – understanding
that you will be hurt, but with appropriate techniques you can come out alive. And that’ the reality of the knife.”. As you see from this talk, the reality of
knife defense is far from how most self defense systems introduce it: clean, specific technique
where the defender comes out unharmed. If we want to raise our chances of surviving
a real knife attack, we have to be willing to face the reality of it by being ready for
it both physically, while doing proper, pressure and intensity training, and also mentally,
considering all possible options in order to raise our chances of coming out alive. As in most real answers, there is no easy
quick solution for this life threatening scenario, and we must face the reality of it in our
training, rather than have our fantasy shattered in a life or death scenario if such a time
comes. If you liked the video, make sure to share
it with your friends and martial arts community. Also, check Bruno Orozco’s YouTube channel
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100 thoughts on “Why You Will Get Cut Defending Against a Knife • Martial Arts Journey”

  1. The first realistic vidio i have seen about defending against a knife. Even if you are also armed with a knife you will still get cut up. I have a lot of knife training and even with practice knives there are a lot of scape and bruises. I have never been in a real knife fight. But my arms are covered with scars from trainig

  2. Same old unfounded assertions being passed on as "expertise" . "running away is the best defense"… really? It certainly seems intuitively correct but the question a professional in this day and age should be asking is "says who"? and "according to what evidence?". Going back as far as "surviving edged weapons" (as law enforcement training film from the late 80s) we learned of an armed off-duty police officer killed by a knife wielding attacker because he was trying to run away (and firing is weapon over his shoulder) -gee, sounds like that might not be such a good idea after all. The knife is going to do this and do that? It is? Again according to what evidence? Certainly knifes can be used in all kinds of highly skilled and deceptive ways, but this does not seem to be the statistical reality when we analyze real knife attack footage. (i suggest all want-to -be self defense instructors look at real attack footage-IN THE LARGEST SAMPLE GROUPS POSSIBLE-before embarking down the path of unfounded opinions and baseless assertions being passed off as expertise while pounding our chests about how bad every one else is. Myths are myths, whether the myth is knife defenses are easy or the myth of "the real knife expert" with near magical powers and who can not ever be stopped-the actual stats do not support either position.

  3. Firstly there is no such thing as a expert, especially in self defence and specifically in knife defence.

    Second, and this is VERY general-if you see it coming, if you manage to secure the arm, you must get a hand around the back of the elbow so that the attacker can’t rechamber for another thrust.

    But then he’s still going to punch you with his other hand and probably try to knee you too. All he wants to do is free up his weapon hand to keep stabbing.

    You have to hang onto that arm, absorb the hits the best you can and head butt, push, shove, stomp, scream and bite (especially bite, you’ve got to get him to drop the knife) to try and give yourself some chance of fighting back or getting away. Stress getting away.

    It’s not pretty, it’s not perfect, and most probably, if you’re lucky you’ll get out of it and to help before you bleed out.

    The knife is sophisticated simplicity-easy to understand, easy to master and excellent at its intended use.

    It is a weapon for everyone. Even the most experienced ‘experts’ can be taken down by a nobody who has deadly intent on their mind.

    A lot of these experts look as calm as Hindu cows when they are demonstrating their techniques. Believe me, the first thing you think is ‘Fuckkkk!!!’ when you see a knife coming at you-all the training goes out the window.

    What you say makes a lot of sense.

  4. This is the most intelligent approach I've ever watched on this issue. It's hard to accept, but it's both realistic and smart

  5. Agreed. Most martial arts systems have no idea how to actually defense and eliminate the edged attack scenario. Great break down! 😎

  6. The actual benefits of Martial arts is you train yourself to not flinch or panic much so you can decide quicker to run away in actual confrontation. It's almost never a good thing to use your fighting skills especially when there's a actual risk of getting killed

  7. go right in his face and hold his arm with the knife so he cant stab you with full force, but only Cut you, then, slowly but surely you will bite off his nice delicate ears, and then you proceed to his eyes, softly but with a firm Grip you tear them out, both, and bite them both right in the pupil, now your little boy, cant hear properly, and cant see.
    slowly unzip his pants and take his knife, run tf away and laugh at him from the distance.

    yes im a demonic terrible and weird human beeing, but sex shit isnt my thing.

  8. I don't understand. Are a master of Aikido, have been practicing for 20 years. But do you say in your videos that the techniques of Aikido does not work. That's very good, but why do you keeping practicing an useless marcial art ?

  9. It's a harsh reality many martial artist I've come across do not seem to grasp and the majority of the time it's people that trained in traditional arts at least from my experience. I say all the time your wallet, purse, car keys, etc… can usually be replaced your life cannot be replaced so why risk it?

  10. "Motherfuckers wanna start shit in every way 
    That's why I got my motherfucking gun every single day" – UGK

  11. S T O P. R A P E I N G. B A B I E S
    The surface area is wider than a guns affective area / like the caliber says its 9mm wide /but a 6inch nife in a less than a foots fight is a lil close ,tough // // kerp the knife from vital points like arteries

  12. Are you saying that when I’m fighting against a knife opponent I’m going to inevitably get cut?! Surprised pikachu meme

  13. Knife defence (everyone elses videos) as opposed to knife realistic defence and damage reduction. Subbed.

  14. So a good place to find people with real life knife fighting experience are restaurant kitchens. No not because we have to fight to see who goes home early on slow days. Kitchens are generally places that don't care if you have a criminal record. I was taught by a dude who spent some good time in prison and although he is a really great guy now, he wasn't always. First rule was look for the two guys who WILL be behind you. A quick glance is good enough. Second rule was run through the opening. Just run, and play basketball to up your ability to dodge and sprint. If on the off chance it's just one guy the third rule is protect your throat with the outsides of your forearms and learn how to slap hands going towards your belly. Repeated upward stabs at the belly is called "the zipper" apparently. Four is don't bite your tongue WHEN your are stabbed. The tongue part is more sarcasm but the point is your getting stitches so get ready. 5 is if you have your own knife cut his arm when it comes in for a body shot. 6 is run. 7 is if you can grab his arm when his knife is in you/just coming out of you, stab the attacker as many possible times until he stops moving. Oh and always assume he will slash the neck first or "the zipper" with zero warning whatsoever so look to see if he has a clenched fist he might be holding a knife in such a way you cant see it. Alternatively it's in his waist band so back up and keep more than 6 feet between him and you. There ya go, my prison knife fighting lesson. Hope it helps someone

  15. I grew up in london u wanna know how i survived i always chose when to fight and knew when to run if they had a fuckin big knife imm yhea you guessed it running z phuck away seriously punch and run folks and if the puch aint available run and run hard because there definitely chasing you

  16. I always teach my disabled students they will get hurt in a fight and since many can't run its you or them. Avoid a fight but if you must go there hit hard, use weapons if you have them and let them underestimate you since you appear less a threat.

  17. Will you? People defend against it daily and don't get cut. Probably better to say, "You may get cut, but try not to." Paraphrasing Bob Kasper, there.

  18. With a video called why you will get cut defending a knife I thought it would be like 5 seconds just to say it's sharp

  19. I guess if you can‘t run, just kick em in the nuts as hard as you can whilst protecting your vitals. As long as you don‘t take a stab to you femoral artery that should give you enough time to kick em in the head or run away 🤷🏼‍♂️

  20. I was bout to get into a fight, the guy had a knife, so I had to defend against a knife. Long story short, I didnt get cut, poor guy ended up traumatized thinking anybody can be carrying 😂👌

  21. When running is not an option another weapon is always the way to go just anything you can get your hands on, preferably something long like a table leg or stick. If there's nothing like that around slip a trainer off if you can do it fast enough. When holding It's possible to catch a knife in the sole or fabric causing it to get stuck plus having a shoe in your hand can cover the arteries on your wrist. leather belts and thick wallets are also protective when wrapped around your wrists. If wearing a backpack switching it to your front can provide protection but still leaves your kidneys vulnerable so make sure not to show your back, keep your chin down and shoulders high to protect your neck. If none of these opportunities are available your legs have more reach than their arms kick them in the genitals when they don't expect it. If it lands it'll at least slow them down some, potentially creating escape opportunity. Last option is placing your keys inbetween your knuckles aim for the jugular, eyes or which ever arm they thrust at you. Combine any of these and with a bit of luck you can survive a knife attack

  22. I was about to get mugged once, but I reminded the attacker that his actions were illegal. He promptly apologized and went away.

  23. The reality of your channel.
    Your entire "journey" is an example of the fact, that you have no place making informative martial arts videos.
    I will again ask you tube to stop putting you in my feed.

  24. Knife? Umm your gonna get stabbed by a sick individual and it's not gonna be stopped. yeah… It's called psychopath, or defenseless. Both very similar.

  25. In college I Saw a Guy robbing a girl on the street with a small kitchen knife. I sneaked behind and hit him in the Head with a brick lol

    The girl screaming/crying didnt let him notice me approaching. And he was probably on drugs

  26. I had a guy come behind me and put a knife to my throat. I grabbed the blade and his wrist. I grabbed the blade so he couldn't cut my throat. I got out of it and bent his wrist and I was easily able to grab the knife. The tanto tip dug into my hand and I had to get 3 stitches but I'm alive. My hand being cut is better than my neck

  27. I know that a person is 100% lying when I ask them : " do you get cut by the knife ? " and they answered no.

  28. I disagree with this to a extent the defense techniques help against a unskilled attacker against a person that is skilled an determined it comes down to timing an your skill,strength,speed an edurance vs your attacker you can practice a technique but until you have to use it you never really learn it so to speak

  29. Smh. This video is a lie. Showing some of the fakest self defense I've ever seen. Yes most definitely knife attacks are normally ambushes and if someone wants you dead and they are smart they are going to stab you in places you will die from before getting a chance to defend yourself. However if someone is dumb enough to attack you and let you see the knife there's plenty of real combat tested self defense you can learn from USMC training to Krav ma ga and you're not always going to get hurt defending against a knife that pure bs. Sure you're more likely to get hurt but well trained and aware you are less likely to JS.

  30. There are many stupid and unrealistic techniques that are used against a knife attack. But the most important aspect is that many people shit their pants even before they see real knife and asshole with that knife. Why? Because they have never trained with real knife. The one that can cut you. And on the street they turn into pussy. Running away is considered an act of pussy where i come frome. I have trained against attack with real knife and i have been attacked with real knife and got cut by it. You will get cut, there is no question about it, but you can defend yourself against it. Despite what expert say. You can. I remember once when i was on the street with my friend and some deepshit started to yell and curse for no reason. Just to show how tough he is. Then we started to argue and dick pulled the knife( not the butcher knife like in the movies, smaller one) and tried to stab me. I caught his arm and i got cut while doing so, but honestly that just pissed me of and i punched him in the face and knocked his teeth out. He fell on the ground from the punch and i was so pissed i started to kick him while he was on the ground. My friend separated me from the guy and i went to the hospital. I still have the scar from that attack. So i busted the myth of how you cant defend yourself against knife thst day and later several times more. My uncle without any martial or self defense knowledge disarmed guy with a gun. The big false reality in reality based self defense is that guy will attack you with knife like he is some ninja. That in real life wont happen. He will try to push the knife inside your stomach and kill you, but it is not like reality self defense classes are showing. All you need is good reaction time. In real life i wont stand in front of a knife i will move aside or i wont let the guy extend his arm close to me so that he can hurt me. That is like someone throws a punch and his fist came close to your face and then you try to block his punch. That is stupid. When he starts to move i move at the same time. It is that simple. I found aikido moves( turning the hip or moving aside) to be very effective against knife attacks or punches. It is like when you see a car coming at you, what is the best thing to do? Move away. Killing your confidence before the fight is ultimate killer. That is why people freeze when they got in street fight.

  31. just learn to box and arm your left and right hands with a brass knuckle with this you can hit him either in flesh or bones.. if you managed to do this.. you might survive a knife attack

  32. I mean if that guy with the knife really hates you, you won't even see the knife… He'll just bump into you and you're stabbed

  33. 10 meters away guys come wth knives towards me

    me: pulls out bazooka ah shit, here we go again

    guys with knives: RUN RUN WTFTTW

  34. I promised myself I wouldn't bother commenting on martial art videos but I've gotta say this: the knife disarms in traditional martial arts like Ju Jitsu, Karate, Taekwondo, Kung Fu, etc. are 'slow' because one has to learn it and demonstrate it. There's generally no sparring in these styles that's why it 'doesn't work'. If they sparred and drilled it often (like they do in Krav Maga) then it'd 'work'.

  35. There is no unarmed defense that works against a knife. I got lucky with a stick one time.

    But it wasn’t skill it was shit house luck..

    The best defense is always time over distance.

    Meaning be far enough away that you can increase distance faster than the guy with a knife.. or start placing lead in them as soon as possible..

  36. Eeeugh I can't stand cuts. I am so queasy right now. If I am attacked with a knife I will look for nearby objects to use as weapons or to create distance such as a chair, pole, something made out of metal, a glass bottle really anything. And if I am cut just once, it's over

  37. I learned to defend against a knife attack when I was a child, a friend of mine a girl was grabbed from behind by a boy wielding a knife he grabbed her in a headlock and started dragging her, I ran over and punched him in the face, he dropped her and slashed my arm as he was slashing at me I found out this was the girl's brother, attempting to take her home to be raped because, it was "her turn", eventually I got the knife and stabbed him in the chest. I called an ambulance and police, he hid for two days till he finally died from the wound, he died because he was afraid he would not actually be helped by the dirty cops in the small town we lived in. This was before I ever was "trained" in martial arts. This is when the local children stopped trying to beat me up 3-4 at a time and stepped it up till I was listed as a lethal weapon with my hands and feet in the 4th grade because 26 children my age or older, who were armed attacked me while I was unarmed, and I put all but 1 in the hospital he got a bandaid and ace wrap from the ambulance, he was the only one that listened when I said "if you are trying to kill me, I will not stop, until you do or I am dead". I was kicked out of self defense classes for this, specifically because at the end of the fight one with a knife who had put two holes in my shirt 3 in my pants one in my shoe and a slash on my arm wouldn't stop, so each time he decide to try again he got hurt worse, the shattered clavicle, didn't stop him even after two broken arms, with 6 broken ribs, so while he was stabbing the holes in my pants and shoe I finally stopped with the whole caring if he died or not and kicked him in the head until he went unconscious… But since to make him go out I had to kick him repeatedly, and I "could have broken his neck" I was no longer allowed to attempt to advance beyond white belt at tae kwon do. And of course then they started finding friends from strange places to take me on, I was a 5th grader when a guy from a JJJ training center, who had studied BJJ, and some other arts showed up with at least 6 friends, to teach me why picking fights was so bad. In his defense he did not know I had been picking off people who were affiliated with people who were grinding up their enemies and mixing them into hamburger patties, and selling them to local businesses. He made my face look like hamburger because "I dishonored his teacher, and his art"… I guess he liked eating humans? I'm joking, he was a pawn in an ugly game. But really sound advice about knife fighting. Oh and for truth to stay true. All the people who came after me for attempting to stop their feeding ground up people to each other, and stopping their abducting children and selling them for various purposes in different countries to avoid prosecution. Spain was tied to every one by "royal blood" or from kickbacks, some also affiliated with Mexican cartels, and south American cartels, but everyone of them was sending money to Spain. I hope they stop being involved with such dealings. It became obvious they were doing the wrong thing with what they did to saint Diego, also since AOC is the direct decendant of the conquistador Cortez, the most famous for raping the indiginous people… That is why I want the world to know now! So when I die in a botched robbery you know it wasn't a robbery, and you know I once gave a shit. No one that really got into business with me ever got me more than a few honest dollars, before being killed or tortured, the USA government literally owes me millions of dollars American allies multiple countries (it is impolite to kiss and tell) totaling as much or more. Private businesses double to triple that even at the 1% I actually wanted but many of these companies received forged contracts stating 60%, so I could make sure that the stuff I worked on would not be used for nefarious purposes. the stuff has been used for nefarious purposes, I didn't get to control how the stuff has been used and for all of it all together with over 20 years trying to save the world have received less than 2000$. I love you all but you all have treated me like shit at some point, work on that. Good day.

  38. Got a question for you…In the hood, guys normally put there free hand out front to grab at anything you throw out there, leaving the hand with the knife free. What do you do in that case?

  39. Yeah I do carry a knife everyday to defend myself, but if the attacker has a knife too. I would simply…… run.

  40. Also kicks are like swinging swords aka sizzors, your legs are sharp wich is why kicking is so effective. Your legs are swords.

  41. I was told by my karate instructor to put my arms up in front of my face (palms facing you) and back away if someone is trying to slash or stab you with a knife. That way the only your arms (the not vital side) will get cut. The attacker can't get at your face or throat.

  42. What did we learn?Always carry a knife or a pepper spray(or if you have then gun works well) so you have better odds for surviving.

  43. I have a friend that was getting mugged with a knife he used blow your head off with a Remington 870 shotgun technique

  44. Distance helps create opening for defensive knife attack but further endangering your gate way for attack. So it would be safe to say that emulate other weapon devices for defending yourself such as using your belts, or chains.

  45. I am most afraid of having to defend a loved one from a knife attack, couldn't live with myself leaving them behind, but damn would that be terrifying.

  46. There is a point that's often entirely missed with knife defense work. Stress is the #1 factor when facing a blade, it's what's going to f**k up everything: speed, critical thinking, ability to use a technique. What people forget or simply don't know is that a person's ability to deal with stress is EXACTLY the same as their ability to lift a certain mass. In order to lift more, start low and build up.

    So we drill with live blades. Every session we drill with live blades. But we start at the stress equivalent of a 20kg bench press level until they get used to it: slowly make a stabbing action to random areas of the body and let them get used to breathing and moving. Then step it up once it becomes boring for them, go to 30kg bench press level… Stay at that new level until it's again boring.

    Over time it will REALLY help to eliminate the STRESS of being confronted by a live blade.

    The problem is that people jump straight to the equivalent of making someone do a 100kg bench press because that's what happens in life. Well of course that isn't going to work. It takes TRAINING! Everything takes training and development.

    The worse thing we can do is never do live blade training, and never give the opportunity to start slow and build up because we all want to get our dicks out and show the world how big they are with fancy f**king YouTube videos and stuff that looks good on TV.

  47. Do a video on what someone can practice at hone on there own if they do not have a sparring partner or equipment to be they can at self defence

  48. Running away is not the best defense. With that aproach you are same in danger as with those magical defenses…

  49. Well – 3 guys just ambushed me and i took the knife . Got pummeled but they ran and i have a souviner.
    Im 65 . Nothin kilt me yet.

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